North American economy in retreat

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2 years 9 months ago #117184 by GoldnBoy
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I was a bit too negative, but the market was not set up for a real weak jobs # so there must be some underlying financial stress.

Bonds went up a bit on the jobs news but are back down

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2 years 9 months ago #117182 by RonS
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Birth death rate was -57,000, the first negative number since January. Seems like they wanted a weak number out there?

www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

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2 years 9 months ago #117181 by lynnsa10
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Thanks Ron, Damm I was thinking of going a bit lower

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2 years 9 months ago #117180 by RonS
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lynnsa you had the right theme and closest to the actual at 156,000

finance.yahoo.com/news/us-payrolls-repor...-2016-114742356.html

I am going to check the birth death rate number

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2 years 9 months ago #117179 by WealthyPlumber
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2 years 9 months ago #117178 by WealthyPlumber
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OK, I throw my guess too at last minute. These crooks will stop at nothing to get Clinton elected so I say a big number too 215,000

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2 years 9 months ago #117177 by RonS
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Many economists believe the political uncertainty of Brexit and Donald Trump pose major risks to the global economy. Those risks stem from public mistrust for government leaders and their inability to distribute wealth more evenly and help people who believe they have been hurt by trade.

"I am seriously concerned on this," Germany's finance minister, Wolfgang Schauble, told CNN's Richard Quest at an International Monetary Fund meeting in Washington.

"You can look all over at the advanced economies -- the British referendum, the campaign in the United States ... more and more people don't trust their elites. They don't trust their economic leaders, and they don't trust their political leaders."
IMF managing director Christine Lagarde acknowledged that countries need to address the "backlash that we are seeing in many corners of the world -- against trade, against innovation."

"Too slow for too long benefiting too few," Lagarde told Quest, referring to global growth.

The sobering comments come about a month before the U.S. election, which has had an anti-trade flair all year. Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, has threatened to get rid of trade deals and slap tariffs on Mexico and China.

His rise was just as unexpected as the British vote in June. One reason for Brexit was a belief that trade had hurt more people than it benefited.

money.cnn.com/2016/10/06/news/economy/im...atest+%28CNNMoney%3A

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2 years 9 months ago #117176 by RonS
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All of you were pretty well right on last month, seems there is a split in ranks but a similar theme.

Bonds are down because they know a big number is coming.

Bonds are down so a little number brings bonds back up.

I was originally siding towards a weak number, but when I think about the election B.S. the elite is very worried about Trump and they will stop at nothing, so a big number this month for rah rah Clinton, 230,000

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2 years 9 months ago #117175 by DearJohn
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I am with The great, he he, I think they come with a big number to boost the Obama Clinton Administration. Clinton is riding on his coattails

www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/oc...-obama-approval-live

Just look how they got the media all against Trump, they can easily make up a big number, They won't do it next month just before elections looks to obvious.

So they do it this month and Clinton campaign can harp on on it all month.

Agree maybe why bonds are down, the elites know the BS game, so I say 255,000

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2 years 9 months ago #117174 by Tom
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Checking the noise here. I think they stay with expectations but a bit better 178,000

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2 years 9 months ago #117173 by alexgreat
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Maybe you guys gave it wrong. Bonds dropping because the banksters know it is going to be a big number to help Clinton get elected, the status quo, so I say 225,000. Remember it is all BS, read between the lines

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2 years 9 months ago #117172 by lynnsa10
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With elections coming I think they just go status quo like last month with just a slight weak number say 164,000

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