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2 years 4 months ago #117327 by GoldnBoy
GoldnBoy replied the topic: Market Sentiment shifting
Here is and interesting article on the amount of Gold held by the India people

The conservative estimate is 41,000 tons

plata.com.mx/Mplata/articulos/articlesFilt.asp?fiidarticulo=301

Civil disobedience can be a sign of a healthy nation - it depends on what is being disobeyed. Avoiding income taxes is totally justified. The Premier Modi of India is trying to corral the Indians into paying income taxes - only a small percentage of Indians cannot avoid the tax - by declaring most of the paper money in the hands of Indians as illegal. So the Indians are desperately trying to get their wealth transferred into gold. The poor little brain of Modi is - unfortunately for India - attempting the change the way of thinking and of living of over one billion Indians, a way of life that Indians have followed for thousands of years. "Fools rush in, where angels fear to tread".

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2 years 4 months ago #117326 by alexgreat
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If India banned gold imports after causing the currency crisis, there would probably be revolt. They are now in their wedding season where the tradition is to buy lots of gold. They had the best monsoon season in 3 years so that bodes well for the wedding season and the gold price down should see heavy buying into year end.

Thats how I see it, but who knows what their government does, if the ban gold imports maybe they do it after wedding season in January??
qz.com/798664/modis-monsoon-bonanza-the-...m-gdp-by-22-billion/

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2 years 4 months ago #117324 by RonS
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India demand is down this year with all the turmoil and chaos there, probably because of the price rise too. I just update the India China Gold demand in the Gold section.

www.playstocks.net/index.php/my-interest...gold-precious-metals

They are at 442 tonnes for the 9 months so far in 2016, well behind the pace of 2015 that was 922 tonnes for the year

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2 years 4 months ago #117320 by Gambler
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Yes great article - another good point was made US$ strength

Also, it has been and will probably continue to be underpinned (somewhat) by weakness in competing fiat currencies such as the Euro. Nevertheless, the hedge fund managers who are buying it now, in the belief that it will rise dramatically above the current level, are going to lose a lot of money. The incoming President will not allow the dollar to soar, because it would destroy American exports.

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2 years 4 months ago #117318 by Gambler
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Gold whacked down today. Rumors out there that India will ban gold imports. Probably rumors started by the banksters. This article claims they originated from market participants. Nice words for short players

www.kitco.com/news/2016-11-23/Indian-Gol...Fact-or-Fiction.html

“I don’t believe it,” Phil Newman, director of research firm Metals Focus, told Kitco News. “[The rumors] seem to have been started by the market participants. Why they started? We don’t know.”

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2 years 4 months ago #117313 by RonS
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Here is a must read article, a bit long, here is a few parts of it

averybgoodman.com/myblog/2016/11/22/maki...manipulation-theory/

""Those of us who look closely at the manipulation of gold prices already knew that Donald Trump would be the 45th President of the United States many days before the election. We already told our friends about it. We’d already said it didn’t matter what the polls were reporting. We knew the public polls were lying. ""

""The CEOs of all of the major international banking houses that deal in gold paid a visit to the White House, at 11:00 am, the day before the biggest price attack in history was launched against gold in April, 2013. They didn’t go there to play checkers. Nor were they there to commiserate with Obama about the banking industry as the media reported at the time. The latter claim is just a cover story.""

""Typically, the gold “market” is subjected to heavy manipulation late in every month prior to major futures contract maturity dates. Since December is always the biggest gold delivery month of the year, it makes perfect sense that a lot of manipulation would take place leading up to it, especially given the election factor described above.  ""

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2 years 5 months ago #117303 by Gambler
Gambler replied the topic: Market Sentiment shifting
Excellent, I think the lesson here is that you should own your gold and silver long before the crisis or problem occurs

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2 years 5 months ago #117295 by RonS
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This idea has been considered in Canada and US so beware.
India is in a currency crisis

In an unscheduled televised address on 8 November Prime Minister Narendra Modi gave the nation just four hours notice that 500 ($7.30; £6) and 1,000 rupee notes would no longer be legal tender.

People were told they could deposit or change their old notes in banks until 30 December and new 500 and 1,000 rupee notes would be issued.

Until 24 November Indians will also be able to change a small sum of old cash into legal tender as long as they produce ID. This amount was reduced from a total of 4,500 rupees to 2,000 rupees on 17 November. Anything above this needs to be credited to a bank account.

The decision was taken to crack down on corruption and illegal cash holdings known as "black money". In an attempt to curb tax evasion, the government expects to bring billions of dollars of unaccounted cash into the economy because the banned bills make up more than 80% of the currency in circulation.

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37983834

Many flocked into Gold and then ---

Friday, November 18, 2016

MUMBAI -- The taxman may knock on your door if you bought gold immediately before or after high denomination currency notes were withdrawn -- even if you paid for the precious metal by cheque or credit card.

Excise authorities have issued notices to 600 jewellers to give details of stocks and sales for each day from Nov 7, a day before the announcement, to Nov 10, the India Bullion & Jewellers Association told The Times. This might be one of the reasons to have caused jewellery and bullion demand to fall sharply in the days after the notices were issued last Friday.

economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/sto...cleshow/55488275.cms

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2 years 5 months ago #117294 by RonS
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Since the $1340 peak just after election Gold has dropped over $125, it's most violent drop since June 2013. The negative sentiment is at extremes with just 10% Bulls, at the same time the US$ is at the other extreme with 91% Bulls.

Readings above the 90% level are extremely rare for asset classes, and we usually only see a couple of these per year. For example Gold Bulls hit 90% back in 2012.

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2 years 5 months ago #117246 by RonS
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Gold holding steady pre election. I see polls are now showing Clinton with just 2 or 3 point leads. It is looking a lot like Brexit where the lead was narrow but a surprise vote to leave.

There is probably more disgust in America and this vote could easily swing for Trump and knock another blow to the establishment.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKBN12Z009

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2 years 5 months ago #117232 by GoldnBoy
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Saturday, October 29, 2016

SHANGHAI -- Shanghai Gold Exchange and Dubai Gold and Commodities Exchange signed an agreement on Friday in Shanghai that makes the Dubai exchange the first foreign exchange to use the SGE's renminbi-denominated gold benchmark.

The SGE is in talks with other exchanges about similar cooperation, according to an SGE circular.

SGE is the world's largest physical bullion exchange. The renminbi-denominated gold benchmark, also known as Shanghai Gold, was launched in April this year. It is one of China's efforts to earn more say over pricing of the precious metal and increase its influence in the global gold market
www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2016-10/29/content_27212093.htm

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2 years 5 months ago #117217 by GoldnBoy
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"The laws of economics are more powerful than all the politicians and all the central bankers."

Regarding the presidential race, Paul is not concerned if Trump prevails since he doesn't see a "whole lot of difference between the two parties."

"Nothing really changes no matter who wins. Governments keep growing, deficits keep growing. The Fed keeps printing more money so I don't expect a lot to change."

"I look at what the Fed is doing. History is on my side. When you print money and you have a fiat currency, it all becomes political; deficits are looked at as benefits. Believe me, gold prices will go up."

Ron Paul - he has it right and is who America really needs as President

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