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7 years 1 month ago #117839 by Gambler
Gambler replied the topic: North American economy in retreat
Jobs report today, I bet about 210K above 200 forecast, they will want a strong number to raise rates

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7 years 3 months ago #117426 by RonS
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US jobs came in at 156,000 a t less than the 175,000 expected but had decent wage growth at 0.4% but really only making up for November's 0.1% decline.

Amazing, for the 2nd month in a row there was no jobs added with the birth/death rate model, in fact they reported this as minus 28 jobs
www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

Maybe they are starting to report closer to real numbers?? although I have not looked at detail in the report yet

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7 years 4 months ago #117409 by alexgreat
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Gundlach, the bond king thinks we have to see yields rise a bit more before we worry

"I think above 3 percent is a problem," Gundlach told Reuters. "If the 10-year goes above 3 percent, you would also have to say unequivocally you have seen the end of the bond bull market."
www.reuters.com/article/us-funds-doublel...uters+Wealth+News%29

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7 years 4 months ago #117407 by Gambler
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James Turk: “Everybody needs to be focusing on what is happening with interest rates, Eric. The yield on the 10-year Treasury Note is flirting with 2.50%. The last time we saw a yield that high was over two years ago. But rising yields are not just happening in the US. Yields are rising in Europe and Asia too. The upward pressure on interest rates is global, and more to the point, central banks are losing control…

Good article

kingworldnews.com/james-turk-central-ban...ally-losing-control/

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7 years 4 months ago #117391 by RonS
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The birth death rate came in at only 2,000 compare to 197,000 last month. How can new business completely shut down from booming one month to nothing the next.

www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesbd.htm

If this does not convince one that it is just a made up number, nothing will

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7 years 4 months ago #117381 by Gambler
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quiet here 178,000 jobs, look like you pretty close

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7 years 4 months ago #117360 by WealthyPlumber
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Nobody wants to guess around the consensus, so I will and go with 182,000.

Ron, I think you should give a trip to Vegas for any subscriber is the closest. If you can pick this number, one should be gambling

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7 years 4 months ago #117358 by Keith
Keith replied the topic: North American economy in retreat
I am going with a weak number, 165,000. No need to pad the number after the Clinton loss LOL

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7 years 4 months ago #117354 by DearJohn
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Initial weekly U.S. jobless claims rose by 17,000 to a seasonally adjusted 268,000 in the week to Saturday, the Labor Department reported today

Consensus expectations compiled by various news organizations called for initial claims to be around 250,000 to 253,000.

This could mean a weaker number tomorrow? I am going with 162,000

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7 years 4 months ago #117351 by lynnsa10
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Don't forget we are guessing about a rigged number, market and media. Here is a long and in depth video on this by Dr. Paul Roberts

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7 years 4 months ago #117349 by alexgreat
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I am shooting high too and will guess at 207,000. I think the Fed wants to really ensure market sees the December rate hike coming

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7 years 4 months ago #117348 by Tom
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I'm going with the strong number 215,000

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